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OK, ova faza se blizi kraju, zna li se kada krece sledeca?
Ima li nekih obecanja ili bilo sta slicno?
 
Čini mi se da je neko od forumasa pitao koje će boje biti petao, na svu sreću neće biti beo već će biti izrađen od crvenog granita.
 
E sad sa tim "pevcem" ce stvarno ovaj deo grada moci da nosi naziv "Malog Pariza"
 
Пре "Малог Пожаревца", као да су је декнули из дворишта гастарбајтерских кућа из влашких крајева..
 
zoran_m":3h8cx123 je napisao(la):
Čini mi se da je neko od forumasa pitao koje će boje biti petao, na svu sreću neće biti beo već će biti izrađen od crvenog granita.
Ja sam pitao, hvala

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[url=http://beobuild.rs/forum/viewtopic.php?p=377420#p377420:24xo3urb je napisao(la):
Вожд » 22 Mar 2016 05:04 pm[/url]":24xo3urb]Пре "Малог Пожаревца", као да су је декнули из дворишта гастарбајтерских кућа из влашких крајева..

Upravo tako, seljačizmu nikad kraja. Ova česma zgleda kao ona turska u Knez Mihajlovoj za pranje nogu, a ova će moći da se koristi za pranje zuba.
 
A zasto toliko hejtujete?
Delija je lepo rekao da je cesma projektovana pre 30 godina a Jovin sada ima preko 80 godina. Nije on tada mogao da dizajnira kao Zaha Hadid.
 
[url=http://beobuild.rs/forum/viewtopic.php?p=377458#p377458:2wy4sik1 je napisao(la):
roger » Уто Мар 22, 2016 8:05 pm[/url]":2wy4sik1]
[url=http://beobuild.rs/forum/viewtopic.php?p=377420#p377420:2wy4sik1 je napisao(la):
Вожд » 22 Mar 2016 05:04 pm[/url]":2wy4sik1]Пре "Малог Пожаревца", као да су је декнули из дворишта гастарбајтерских кућа из влашких крајева..

Upravo tako, seljačizmu nikad kraja. Ova česma zgleda kao ona turska u Knez Mihajlovoj za pranje nogu, a ova će moći da se koristi za pranje zuba.

Meни је то омиљена чесма из детињства пошто сам на њој увек могао да пијем воду без проблема за разлику од других чесми у граду.
 
[url=http://beobuild.rs/forum/viewtopic.php?p=377459#p377459:3dh3cldy je napisao(la):
spatiotecte » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:08 pm[/url]":3dh3cldy]A zasto toliko hejtujete?
Delija je lepo rekao da je cesma projektovana pre 30 godina a Jovin sada ima preko 80 godina. Nije on tada mogao da dizajnira kao Zaha Hadid.


И пре 30 година је била кичерица.

Лепо рекох, коме недостаје српска старина, нека прошета до Грачанице, Дечана, Призрена, Нагоричина, Кратова..
Да каже коју лепу монасима и монахињама , понесе штогод српској дечици на дар..

То све неће компензовати ни најмонументалнијим копијама по Београду.
 
Za vas koji mozda niste upuceni, petao je jedan od simbola Francuske u sportu, ali i kao simbol datira jos do pada Rimskog carstva i formiranja Galije, a i cesto se koristi kao afirmacija francuskog patriotizma. Petla mozete videti i kao simbol i u okviru mnogih shabby chic dekoracija (na slikama, soljama, suvenirima...).

Takodje dosta se koristi i kao fashion simbol, postoji brand koje se zove Le coq sportif .

Mislim da je sada mnogo jasnije svima, otkud petao u "malom Parizu", simbolika je vise nego jasna.

EDIT:

Petao se naalzi i na kapiji rezidencije francuskog predsednika u Parizu -Palais de l'Elysée.

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Симбол петла датира и пре и шире..

Religion and spiritual belief systems

Since antiquity the rooster has been, and still is, a sacred animal in some cultures[11] and deeply embedded within various religious belief systems and religious worship. The term "Persian bird" for the cock would appear to been given by the Greeks after Persian contact "because of his great importance and his religious use among the Persians",[12] but even long before that time, in Iran, during the Kianian Period, from about 2000 B.C. to about 700 B.C., “the cock was the most sacred”[13]
Rooster
Animism, shamanism and tribal religions

In Southeast Asia, understandings and interpretations of indigenous beliefs of the veneration of spirits and deities remain strong and for many who are practicing Christians there is still the veneration of the traditional spirits (anito) as in northern Philippines. Animist beliefs extend to the rooster and the cockfight, ”a popular form of fertility worship among almost all Southeast Asians”[14] further considered by some within the Judeo-Christian ethic as a form of Baal or Baalim.

Aluk or Aluk To Dolo a sect of Agama Hindu Dharma as a part of religion in Indonesia, within the Toraja society and the people of Tana Toraja, embrace religious rituals such as the funeral ceremony where a sacred cockfight is an integral part of the religious ceremony and considered sacred within that spiritual realm.[15] In several myths the cock has the power to revive the dead or to make a wish come true and is well known in Torajan cosmology.[16]

Kaharingan, an animist folk religion of the Iban branch of the Dayak people, accepted as a form of Hinduism by the Indonesian government, includes the belief of a supreme deity as well as the rooster and cockfight in relation to that of the spiritual and religious and some with the belief that humans become the fighting cocks of god, with the Iban further believing the rooster and cockfight was introduced to them by god.[17] Gawai Dayak a festival of the Dayaks includes the cockfight and the waving of a rooster over offerings while asking for guidance and blessings with the rooster being sacrificed and the blood included in spiritual offering,[18] while the Tiwah festival involves the sacrifice of many animals including the chicken as offerings to the Supreme God.[19]

Ikenga, an alusi of the Igbo people in southeastern Nigeria requires consecration before religious use with offerings which include the sacrificial blood of a rooster or ram for the spirit.
Yoruba carved and painted wood tribal statue of a "cock fight"

Miao (i.e. Hmong) are animists, shamanists and ancestor worshipers with beliefs being affected in varying degrees by Taoism, Buddhism and Christianity. At the Miao New Year there may be the sacrifice of domestic animals and there may be cockfights.[20] The Hmong of Southeast Guizhou will cover the rooster with a piece of red cloth and then hold it up to worship and sacrifice to the Heaven and the Earth. In Shamanism in the Hmong culture, a shaman may use a rooster in religious ceremony as it is said that the rooster shields the shaman from "evil" spirits by making him invisible as the evil spirits only see the rooster's spirit. In a 2010 trial of a Sheboygan Wisconsin Hmong who was charged with staging a cockfight, it was stated that the roosters were “kept for both food and religious purposes,”[21] resulting in an acquittal.[22] In Viet Nam fighting roosters or fighting cocks are colloquially called "sacred chickens".[23]

Santería which originated in Cuba from native Caribbean culture, Catholicism, and the Yoruba religion of West Africa “ritually sacrifices chickens”.[11]

Khasi people believe the rooster is sacrificed as a substitute for man, it being thought that the cock when sacrificed “bears the sins of the man”[24] (See also similarity of Kapport in Judaism)

Yoruba oral history tells of God lowering Oduduwa down from the sky, the ancestor of all people, bringing with him a rooster, some dirt, and a palm seed. The dirt was thrown into the water and the cock scratched it to form land, and the seed grew into a tree with sixteen limbs, the original sixteen kingdoms.[25]

"The sacrifice of a cock and a ritual cockfight was part of the Imbolc festivities in honour of the pan-Celtic goddess Brighid".[26] In the 20th century, Imbolc was resurrected as a religious festival in Neopaganism, specifically in Wicca, Neo-druidry and Celtic Reconstructionism.[27][28]
Astro-mythology
Rooster depicted

It is understood that the constellations of the Zodiac within the belief system of Astrology, “the religion of the stars”,[29] originated in the ancient land of Babylonia (including modern day Iraq). The lore of the True Shepherd of Anu (SIPA.ZI.AN.NA - Orion and his accompanying animal symbol, the Rooster, with both representing the herald of the gods, being their divinely ordained role to communicate messages of the gods.[30] "The Heavenly Shepherd" or "True Shepherd of Anu" - Anu being the chief god of the heavenly realms.[31] On the star map the figure of the Rooster was shown below and behind the figure of the True Shepherd, both representing the herald of the gods, in his bird and human forms respectively.[32]

Nergal, an idol of the Assyrians, Babylonians, Phoenicians, and Persians, whose name means, "a dunghill cock."[32] (Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, Brewer, 1900) Astrological mythology of the Assyrians and Babylonians was that the idol "Nergal represents the planet Mars, which was ever the emblem of bloodshed".[33]

The Rooster is the tenth of the twelve animal symbols in the Chinese zodiac.

It is suggested that the Pleiades are called the hens of Frigg or of Freya by Norse peoples.[34] That the three stars of Orion's belt was called the Distaff of Frigg seems undoubtable[35] -.

See also Kukkuta Sastra in Divination.
Norse mythology

In Norse mythology, the crowing of three particular roosters occur at the beginning of the foretold events of Ragnarök. In the Poetic Edda poem Völuspá, references to Ragnarök begin from stanza 40 until 58, with the rest of the poem describing the aftermath. In the poem, a völva—a Nore seeress—recites information to the wisdom-seeking god Odin. In stanza 41, the völva says:

Old Norse:

Fylliz fiǫrvi
feigra manna,
rýðr ragna siǫt
rauðom dreyra.
Svǫrt verða sólskin
of sumor eptir,
veðr ǫll válynd

Vitoð ér enn, eða hvat?[36]



English:

It sates itself on the life-blood
of fated men,
paints red the powers' homes
with crimson gore.
Black become the sun's beams
in the summers that follow,
weathers all treacherous.

Do you still seek to know? And what?[36]

The völva then describes three roosters crowing: In stanza 42, the jötunn herdsman Eggthér sits on a mound and cheerfully plays his harp while the crimson rooster Fjalar (Old Norse "hider, deceiver"[37]) crows in the forest Gálgviðr. The golden rooster Gullinkambi crows to the Æsir in Valhalla, and the third, unnamed soot-red rooster crows in the halls of the underworld location of Hel in stanza 43.[38]

The poem Fjölsvinnsmál also mentions a rooster by the name of Víðópnir.[39] According to the poem, the rooster sits atop the tree Mímameiðr, likely another name for the central cosmological tree Yggdrasil.[40]
Buddhism
Sacred Buddha amulet blessed in Wat Wangtakian Temple, Jorrakaepuek District, Kanjanaburee, Thailand

Bayon Temple is an ancient Buddhist temple that also incorporates elements of Hindu cosmology includes “a depiction of a cockfight” within the walls of the temple.[41] which continues today within a debate of “religious sanctity”[42]

With the rambling strutting roosters of the Buddhist temple of Wat Suwankhiri[43] on a Payathonsu cliff nearby, during April, Three Pagodas Pass becomes a site of the Songkran Festival with cockfights.[44]

Sacred Buddhist amulets are made within that religious schema, created and blessed in various temples in Thailand, many depicting Buddha with cocks in fighting stance, sacred within that religion.
Divination

Divination, a part of many religions is derived from the Latin divinare "to foresee, to be inspired by a god"[45][46] and as a part of divination comes alectryomancy, which means rooster and divination respectively, with the intent of communication between the gods and man in which the diviner observes a cock, pecking at grain, with Judaism forbidding acts of divination in the Hebrew Bible Deuteronomy 18:10-12. Alectormancy though is also sacrificing a sacred rooster, with the use of the sacred rooster through alectryomancy further understood within that religious character and likewise defined as the rooster fight or cockfight or cockfighting[47] with the intent of communication between the gods and man.

Kukkuta Sastra (Cock Astrology) is a form of divination based on the rooster fight and commonly believed in coastal districts of Andhra Pradesh, India. It is prevalent in the state, especially in the districts of Krishna, Guntur, East Godavari and West Godavari and the Sankranti festival.
Hinduism
Main article: Hinduism
Karttikeya with Vel and Seval (rooster), coin of the Yaudheyas 200 BCE.

Hindu war God Karthikeya is depicted with a rooster on his flag. A demon Surapadman was split into two and the halves turned into the peacock (his mount) and the rooster in his flag.

Balinese Hinduism includes the religious belief of Tabuh Rah, a religious cockfight where a rooster is used to fight against another rooster. The altar and deity Ida Ratu Saung may be seen with a fighting cock in his hand[48] with the spilling of blood being necessary as purification to appease the evil spirits. Ritual fights usually take place outside the temple proper and follow an ancient and complex ritual as set out in the sacred lontar manuscripts.[49]

Likewise a popular Hindu ritual form of worship of North Malabar in Kerala, India is the blood offering to the Theyyam gods. Despite being forbidden in the Vedic philosophy of sattvic Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism,[50] Theyyam deities are propitiated through the rooster sacrifice where the religious cockfight is a religious exercise of offering blood to the Theyyam gods.

Pongal or Makar Sankranti is a Hindu harvest festival. In southern state of Tamil Nadu and western state of Gujarat, an event of the celebrations is rooster fighting also known as Seval Sandai or Kozhi kettu. It is also practiced in Tulunadu.[51] Kozhi kettu organized as part of religious events are permitted.[52]
Samaritanism
Main article: Samaritans

The Samaritans or 'Cutheans' were a very early ethnic group, widely distributed and powerful. From Assyria they extended to India, China, Arabia Petraea and Abyssinia. They were also introduced by the Assyrian Empire into Samaria, in a policy of mass deportations. They had their Samaritan Temple on Mount Gerizim, opposite the Temple in Jerusalem, and they worshipped the Mesopotamian deity Nergal: his emblem was a cock (rooster).[53][54]
Judaism

The Zohar (iii. 22b, 23a, 49b), the book of Jewish mysticism and collection of writings on the Torah written by first century tannaic sage Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai (Rashbi), tells of a celestial manifestation, which causes the crowing of the roosters; known also in the Talmud, is "blessed be He who has given the cock intelligence,"(Ber. 60b).[55] and as well as Job 38:36 in the Douay-Rheims Bible.

Not only “In the rabbinic literature, the cockcrow is used as general marking of time”,[56] but also some of the Sages interpreted the "cockcrow" to mean the voice of the Temple officer who summoned all priests, Levites, and Israelites to their duties and used as such because the Hebrew gever was used also to mean a "rooster" in addition to the meaning of "man, strong man".[57]

The Talmud likewise provides the statement "Had the Torah not been given to us, we would have learned modesty from cats, honest toil from ants, chastity from doves and gallantry from cocks"[58] - (Jonathan ben Nappaha. Talmud: Erubin 100b), which may be further understood as to that of the gallantry of cocks being taken in the context of a religious instilling vessel of "a girt one of the loins"(Young's Literal Translation) that which is "stately in his stride" and "move with stately bearing" within the Book of Proverbs 30:29-31. Saʻadiah ben Yosef Gaon (Saadia Gaon) identifies the definitive trait of "a cock girded about the loins" within Proverbs 30:31(Douay–Rheims Bible) as "the honesty of their behavior and their success",[59] identifying a spiritual purpose of a religious vessel within that religious and spiritual instilling schema of purpose and use, within Judeo-Christian traditions.

The Hebrew term zarzir, which literally means “girt”; “that which is girt in the loins” (BDB 267 s.v.) is recognized in the Targum as well as the Chaldaic, Syriac, Arabic, LXX and Vulgate with all referencing the fighting rooster of fighting cock as the religious vessel. The ancient Hebrew versions identified the Hebrew "a girt one of the loins" of Proverbs 30:31 as a rooster, "which most of the old translations and Rabbis understood to be a fighting cock",[60] with also the Arabic sarsar or sirsir being an onomatopoeticon or onomatopoeia for rooster (alektor) as the Hebrew zarzir of Proverbs 30:31. "Rooster (Gallus domesticus) bones were identified at Lachish dating to early Iron II",[61] but even earlier not to be ruled out, which corresponds was well with "as for Palestine, the earliest chicken bones are present in Iron Age I strata in Lachish and Tell Hasben".[62] Further we see the rooster placed within the Star of David, known in Hebrew as the Shield of David or Magen David and recognized of Jewish identity and Judaism. In excavations at Gibeon, near Jerusalem, dating to the seventh century B.C., potsherds were found incised with cocks and "some of them placed within the six-pointed star of the Magen David."[63] The seal of Jaazaniah carries the insignia of a rooster from the ruins of the biblical Judean kingdom at Mizpah, with the inscription of "belonging to Jaazaniah, servant to the king".,[64][65] the first known representation of the chicken in Palestine, and from II Kings 25:23, we know of one Jaazaniah the Maschathit, who was an official under Gedalish at Mizpah.

Plutarch said the inhabitants of Caria carried the emblem of the rooster on the end of their lances and relates that origin to Artaxerxes, who awarded a Carian who was said to have killed Cyrus the Younger at the battle of Cunaxa in 401 B.C "the privilege of carrying ever after a golden cock upon his spear before the first ranks of the army in all expeditions"[66] and the Carians also wore crested helmets at the time of Herodotus, for which reason "the Persians gave the Carians the name of cocks".[67] It is Carites in 2 Kings 11 who were used by Jehoiada to protect Joash son of Ahaziah of the line of David, ancestor to Christ from Athaliah.

In the Jewish religious practice of Kapparos, a rooster as a religious vessel is swung around the head and then sacrificed on the afternoon before Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. The purpose of the sacrifice is the expiation of sins of the man as the animal symbolically receives all the man's sins, which is based on the reconciliation of Isaiah 1:18. The religious practice is mentioned for the first time by Natronai ben Hilai, Gaon of the Academy of Sura in Babylonia, in 853 C.E., who describes it as a custom of the Babylonian Jews and further explained by Jewish scholars in the ninth century by that since the Hebrew word geber (Gever)[68] means both "man" and "rooster" the rooster may act or serve as a palpable substitute as a religious vessel in place of the man with the practice also having been as a custom of the Persian Jews.
Christianity
Good Shepherd fresco from the Catacombs of San Callisto with the cock at His right hand.
Vatican Persian Cock - A 1919 print of a fabric square of a Persian cock or a Persian bird design belonging to the Vatican (Holy See) in Rome dating to 600 C.E. Notice the halo denoting the status of being holy within that religious schema.

In East Timor, one of the two predominately Christian nations in southeast Asia (the Philippines being the other), for some, the roof of the house is reserved for gods and spirits of ancestors, the lower portion remains for the nature spirit and usually occupied by animals, and the cock is admired because of courage and perseverance, with the courage of a man compared with that of the cock, with the cockfight occurring regularly and “many tais designs include the cock”.[69] Reverend Dr. Kosuke Koyama's thoughts and words spreading the Christian gospel while in Indonesia of, this morning I say to myself, “I will try to bring the gospel of Christ through the medium of cockfighting!"[70] may be further understood not only in the spiritual understandings of many in Indonesia but further in the light of numerous representations of the rooster or cock as a religious vessel found in the Catacombs from the earliest period[9] including a painting from the Catacomb of St. Priscilla (mentioned in all the ancient liturgical sources and known as the "Queen of the Catacombs" in antiquity) reproduced in Giovanni Gaetano Bottari's folio of 1754, where the Good Shepherd is depicted as feeding the lambs, with a crowing cock on His right and left hand.[71] Likewise as well within the Christian "Tomb of the Cocks" in Beit Jibrin, which was a Palestinian Arab village located 13 miles northwest of the city of Hebron and part of the Kingdom of Israel, "we find two spirited cocks painted in red in the spandrels with a cross just over the center of the arch".[72] Similarly a multitude of sarcophagi are found with the rooster and the sacred cockfight with the understanding of striving for resurrection and eternal life in Christianity. This sacred subject carved on early Christian tombs, where the sepulchral carvings have an important purpose, "a faithful wish for immortality, with the victory of the cock and his supporting genius analogous to the hope of resurrection, the victory of the soul over death".[73] Similar illustrations of cocks in fighting stance[10] are found within the Vivian Bible as well as the fighting cocks capitals in the Basilica of St. Andoche in Saulieu[74] and the Cathédrale Saint-Lazare d'Autun provides “alternate documentation”[75] of the rooster and the religious, spiritual and sacred cockfight.

All four canonical gospels state that, during the Last Supper, Jesus foretold of Peter’s denial (Saint Peter) and that he would deny Christ three times before the cock’s crow.

Augustine of Hippo, Catholic saint and pre-eminent Doctor of the church understood "a visible sign of an invisible reality" of the rooster to include that as described by St. Augustine in DeOrdine as that which "in every motion of these animals unendowed with reason there was nothing ungraceful since, of course, another higher reason was guiding everything they did".[76]

In the sixth century, it is reputed that Pope Gregory I declared the cock the emblem of Christianity saying the rooster was "the most suitable emblem of Christianity",[77] being "the emblem of St Peter".[78][79] Some say that it was as a result of this that the cock began to be used as a weather vane on church steeples, and some a Papal enactment of the ninth century ordered the figure of the cock to be placed on every church steeple.[80] It is known that Pope Leo IV had the figure of the cock placed on the Old St. Peter's Basilica or old Constantinian basilica[81] and has served as a religious icon and reminder of Peter's denial of Christ since that time, with some churches still having the rooster on the steeple today. Alternative theories about the origin of weathercocks on church steeples are that it was an emblem of the vigilance of the clergy calling the people to prayer,[82] that it was derived from the Goths[83] and is only possibly a Christian symbol,[84] and that it is an emblem of the sun.[85]

The Vatican Persian cock denoting a sacred and religious vessel acknowledged by and from the Vatican, "a girt one of the loins" of Proverbs 30:31, the Hebrew zarzir, Arabic sarsar, Greek alektor, French coq, Persian bird, Persian cock or the acknowledged rooster from the Hebrew Torah, the Christian Old Testament, the Holy Scriptures of Job, Isaiah and of the Apostles John, Luke, Matthew and Mark, and the Gospel of Jesus Christ may still further be viewed through "A Dictionary of the Bible" which tells us that "Pindar (ca. 522–443 BC), mentions the cock, Homer (ca. 800–750 BC) names a man "gever" the word for a cock and Aristophanes (ca. 446 BC – ca. 386 BC) calls it a Persian bird."[86]

In the Bayeux Tapestry of the 1070s, originally of the Bayeux Cathedral and now exhibited at Musée de la Tapisserie de Bayeux in Bayeux, Normandy, there is a depiction of a man installing a rooster on Westminster Abbey.

The cornerstone is the first stone set in the construction of a masonry foundation and over time it became a ceremonial stone with the laying of the stone being generally important metaphorically in sacred architecture. Frazer (2006: p. 106) in The Golden Bough tells us that, “In modern Greece, when the foundation of a new building is being laid, it is the custom to kill a cock, a ram, or a lamb, and to let its blood flow on the foundation-stone”.
Islam

The understanding of the divine spiritual endowment of the rooster within Islam, may be evidenced in the words of Muhammad of that Abrahamic religion in one of the six canonical hadith collections of Sunni Islam, stating that of "when you hear the crowing of cocks, ask for Allah's Blessings for they have seen an angel".[87]
Shintoism

Shintoism is the indigenous spirituality of the people of Japan with many roosters being found around Shinto shrines, with the rooster being associated with the sun goddess Amaterasu.[88]
Taoism

In Taoism, Hanshi and the spring Hanshi festival were when fires were not used and then relit. Since fire, like the cock a yang symbol and symbol of the sun, was temporarily extinguished and then relit. In a Tao religious aspect, to have a rooster fight another rooster, was the same in substance as a fire-renewal custom, where the rooster and the cockfight then takes its place as an indispensable spring ritual, and “Taoism, which assessed it positively in this form, can be thought to have guaranteed its continued existence”.[89] The Hanshi festival was eventually moved to coincide with the Qingming Festival or the Pure Brightness Festival which still includes the rooster and cockfight.[90]
Zoroastrianism

Zoroastrianism, claimed to be “the oldest of the revealed world-religions”[91] and founded by the Prophet Zoroaster (or Zarathustra) opposed animal sacrifices but held the rooster as a "symbol of light"[92] and associated the cock with "good against evil"[92] because of his heraldic actions. In Iran during the Kianian Period, from about 2000 B.C. to about 700 B.C., among domestic birds, “the cock was the most sacred”[13] and within that religion, the devout, “had a cock to guard him and ward off evil spirits”.[93]
Emblems
The flag of Wallonia features a red rooster

The cockerel was already of symbolic importance in Gaul at the time of the invasion of Julius Caesar and was associated with the god Lugus.[citation needed] Today the Gallic rooster is an emblem of France. The rooster is also an emblem of Wallonia and Denizli.

Among Roman deities, Priapus was sometimes represented as a cock, with its beak as a phallus and its wattles as testicles. The cock or a man with rooster attributes was similarly used as an erotic symbol, Priapus Gallinaceus[94]

The Cockburn clan in Scotland use the cock as their badge. Their canting coat-of-arms is Argent three cocks gules, and their motto is ACCENDIT CANTU (Latin: He rouses us with song).[95]

A fighting cockerel on a ball is the symbol of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. The cockerel wears a pair of spurs which is a reference to the club's nickname. It has been present on their crest and shield since 1901. Additionally, the cockerel is the emblem of Turkish sports club Denizlispor, which was founded in 1966. Also, the supporters of the club are called cockerels. Another soccer club that uses a rooster as its symbol is the Clube Atlético Mineiro, from Brazil. The supporters of the club and the supporters of other Brazilian clubs, often refer to Mineiro as "Galo", which means rooster in Portuguese.

The "Crazy Rooster", a symbol of Clube Atlético Mineiro. Another sporting team that has adopted the cockerel as its emblem is the National Rugby League team, the Sydney Roosters, in Australia. The Roosters' emblem is a cock with its comb fashioned to represent the Sydney Opera House.

Jesus College in the University of Cambridge features roosters on its coat of arms.[96]

The University of South Carolina features a Gamecock, or fighting cockerel, as its mascot for all athletic programs.

The emblem of Chianti Classico is a black rooster.[97]

A black cockerel was believed in medieval times to be a symbol of witchcraft along with the black cat,[98] with the rooster "used as symbols of either virtue or vice"[99] until modern times.

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..па све то нема никакве везе са кичерајем који нам се намеће..

Такође, Élysée Palace, датира из 18. века, па и да се желео материјализовати петао као један од симбола Француске, то се у 21. веку свакако не би чинило на исти начин. А како управо то у Београду чинимо, пре ћемо заличити на паланку него на Париз.
 
meni je ta erotska asocijacija na pevca najbliskija od svih gore pomenutih, moram da priznam.
inace, simbolise blagostanje, mir, prosperitet, stabilnost, nadu, srecu, jutro.
 
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Вожд » 22 Mar 2016 05:04 pm[/url]":1uhssgjp]Пре "Малог Пожаревца", као да су је декнули из дворишта гастарбајтерских кућа из влашких крајева..

Upravo tako, seljačizmu nikad kraja. Ova česma zgleda kao ona turska u Knez Mihajlovoj za pranje nogu, a ova će moći da se koristi za pranje zuba.

Значи, стварно смо фасцинантна нација ...

... кад се у старом делу града предложи нешто модерно, крене дрвље и камење како не може модерно него мора старо ... кад се ради неостаро, ни то не може ...

... комуњаре су биле у праву. За нас није ништа боље од ливеног асфалта и црно - жутих стубића.
 
Prvo nastavak izvodjenja: fontana dobila stepenik :roll:

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A onda pitanja:
- Ako se znao projekat od pocetka, onda se znalo da ce biti potrebni ivicnjaci na trotoaru. Zasto se onda bacaju stari i ugradjuju novi? Zar nisu mogli da se sacuvaju stari i iskoriste ponovo - imali su svu mehanizaciju i prilicno su pazljivo otkopavli trotoar. Mislim, nije neka usteda, ali zasto uvek sve mora iz pocetka??

Pogledajte prilog 1

- Dali neko zna da li preko ovog maltera ispod kamene ograde dolazi nesto drugo ili je ovo zavrsna obrada? Malter izgleda katastrofalno - izmazano i jeftino...(pogotovo pogledajte prethodnu fotografiju).

A o tome sto su klinci vec poceli da koriste granit kao poligon za zvrljanje - nemam reci...

 
Slazem se sa pitanjem, da li ce stvarno ostati ovako amaterski zamalterisano?
 
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Вожд » 22 Mar 2016 05:04 pm[/url]":2w9n2wu1]Пре "Малог Пожаревца", као да су је декнули из дворишта гастарбајтерских кућа из влашких крајева..

Upravo tako, seljačizmu nikad kraja. Ova česma zgleda kao ona turska u Knez Mihajlovoj za pranje nogu, a ova će moći da se koristi za pranje zuba.

Значи, стварно смо фасцинантна нација ...

... кад се у старом делу града предложи нешто модерно, крене дрвље и камење како не може модерно него мора старо ... кад се ради неостаро, ни то не може ...

... комуњаре су биле у праву. За нас није ништа боље од ливеног асфалта и црно - жутих стубића.


Паметни људи, знали су с ким имају посла и најдуже су остали на власти.
 
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Вожд » 22 Mar 2016 05:04 pm[/url]":1fga8l1g]Пре "Малог Пожаревца", као да су је декнули из дворишта гастарбајтерских кућа из влашких крајева..

Upravo tako, seljačizmu nikad kraja. Ova česma zgleda kao ona turska u Knez Mihajlovoj za pranje nogu, a ova će moći da se koristi za pranje zuba.

Значи, стварно смо фасцинантна нација ...

... кад се у старом делу града предложи нешто модерно, крене дрвље и камење како не може модерно него мора старо ... кад се ради неостаро, ни то не може ...


... комуњаре су биле у праву. За нас није ништа боље од ливеног асфалта и црно - жутих стубића.


Ти си у сукобу интереса када су потези градске власти у питању, политичару..
Мало је очигледно да покушаваш мењањем теза оправдати њихове неуке науме.
 
Reko bih da se stf u ovom slucaju slaze vecina
 
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