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Da li ćete se vakcinisati i kojom vakcinom?

  • Da - Sinopharm

    Glasovi: 32 10,1%
  • Da - Sputnik V

    Glasovi: 25 7,9%
  • Da - Pfizer-BioNTech

    Glasovi: 81 25,6%
  • Da - bilo kojom dostupnom vakcinom

    Glasovi: 49 15,5%
  • Da - AstraZeneca

    Glasovi: 23 7,3%
  • Da - Moderna

    Glasovi: 2 0,6%
  • Nisam siguran sačekaću još

    Glasovi: 44 13,9%
  • Ne želim da se vakcinišem

    Glasovi: 60 19,0%

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Mikie » Pon Okt 04, 2021 2:35 pm[/url]":2rks24te]http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/northamerica/2021-08/06/c_1310111431.htm
WASHINGTON, Aug. 5 (Xinhua) -- Fully vaccinated people can still transmit the COVID-19 virus, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well," Walensky told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

The vaccines work well for Delta in a way to prevent severe illness and death, but "what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission," Walensky said, stressing the need for even vaccinated people to wear masks indoors again.

The Delta variant accounts for an estimated 93.4 percent of all new COVID-19 cases in the United States during the last two weeks of July, according to figures published by the CDC on Wednesday.

A study released last week by the agency showed the Delta variant produced similar amounts of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people if they got infected, suggesting that vaccinated groups who get a breakthrough infection could have a similar tendency to spread the virus as the unvaccinated

Да ли заиста постоји потреба за вакцинацијом млађих без коморбидитета? С тим још више да ли постоји потреба за присилном вакцинацијом исте групе, а да уопште не уведемо у аргументацију негативне последице вакцина?

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vacci ... warns-over

Negativne posledice vakcina su kod nas pod velom tajne, imaš zid ćutanja. Ajde lepo izbacite listing svih neželjenih reakcija koje ste poslali u Upsalu. Ako je tačno da nema umrlih, i nema teških posledica po vakcinisane, to će biti najbolja reklama da se opet zahukta vakcinacija. Ali naravno to nije tačno...
 
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astrodule »
Meni je i dalje neverovatno da nijedan veći svetski proizvođač vakcina već ne distribuira vakcine bazirane na delta soju. Prošle godine se masovno pričalo da će novi sojevi biti izuzetno efikasno inkorporirani u sastav vakcina, i da se neće čekati na testiranja i odobravanja, kao kod razvoja vakcine na originalnom soju.

Meni to uopste nije cudno. U kapitalizmu je tako. Ako ulozis pare u neki razvoj, onda tezis da izvuces svaku kap, pa tek onda ulazes u novi proizvod.
Njih ne zanima zastita stanovnistva, nego profit.
Sto da uloze u nova istrazivanja kad mogu da prodaju vakcine takve kakve jesu.
 
@Goje I mene to čudi već poslednjih par meseci.

Naročito me čudi jer polako ceo svet počinje da propagira da su jedino vakcine rešenje.

Drugar bio prethodnih dana u Nemačkoj, Italiji (sever) i Češkoj. Kaže da smo ubedljivo najgori od svih što se tiče nošenja maski.

Recimo na nekom sajmu u Nemačkoj ga nisu puštali sa platnenom maskom da uđe (i pored kovid pasoša). Mora maska da ima klipsu iznad nosa, inače je ne priznaju. O nošenju ispod nosa ne vredi ni trošiti reči.

U Italiji mu nije prolazio naš QR kod. Imao je odštampan papir gde su pisani datumi vakcinacija pa su ga ipak (uz malo negodovanja) puštali.

U Sloveniji kolega na pumpi ide ka WC-u, radnica mu traži kovid pasoš. Pustila bi ona njega, ali pumpa je pod video nadzorom, pa mu je rekla da pokaže bilo kakav papir i pustiće ga. Imao je ipak pravi papir pa nije bilo problema.

Po restoranima je nezamislivo da se vidi zaposleni bez maske.

I posle se pitamo zašto nam se dešava to što se dešava.

Nama je problem da pravilno nosimo maske - šta više pričati o našem mentalitetu.
 
MIslim da su ti odlasci u klubove, igraonice itd znak jednog nedostatka empatije, vaspitanja i solidarnosti.
Zakljucavanje ugostiteljskih objekata je za nas zaista jedina opcija.
 
Lepo sam rekao da su levičari isti. Za Srbiju si u pravu da je ta ulična pobuna tada imala efekta. Međutim kasniju korona politiku naših vlasti diktiraju interesi druge vrste, a ne strah od ponavljanja iste priče. Grupa koja je to tada izvela je procentualno isuviše mala, pa je čak bila i mali deo svih koji su izašli na ulice. Vlasti tada prosto nisu bile spremne. A ovo što sam sada napisao je opšta analiza veze politike i korone u svetu. TO je ono što se u osnovi kasnije uvek preslikava i kod nas.
 
Ma bitno da si se ti po običaju lepo olakšao po još jednoj grupi svojih sunarodnika.


Znaš samo šta se pitam - da u Srbiji pomru svi nevakcinisani, pa posle njih i svi koji ne nose maske 100% vremena, po kome bi se onda olakšavao? Koga bi onda krivio i pljuvao? Jer mislim ti nekog moraš da omalovažavaš, prosto takav si. Pa me živo zanima na koga bi se nameračio onda...

(ćutke skreće pogled ka Duletu, Goji, chiku i undefined-u)
 
Negativne posledice vakcina su kod nas pod velom tajne, imaš zid ćutanja. Ajde lepo izbacite listing svih neželjenih reakcija koje ste poslali u Upsalu. Ako je tačno da nema umrlih, i nema teških posledica po vakcinisane, to će biti najbolja reklama da se opet zahukta vakcinacija. Ali naravno to nije tačno...

Mene nerviraju izjave zvaničnika da niko nije umro ko je vakcinisan, gde kažu da nema skoro nikoga u kovid bolnicama da je revakcinisan i slične stvari.

Znam ja da je narod nepoverljiv, ali postoa je nepovreljiv jer nadležni od prvog dana govore kao da je vakcina 100% rešenje i 100% zaštita.

I onda neko (svako od nas) vidi revakcinisanog poznanika koji završi u bolnici i naravno da nepoverenje samo raste.

Onda čuje da nema nikoga revakcinisanog u bolnici i shvati (napokon) da nas lažu.

I onda dolazi do izražaja priča o pastiru i vuku i naravno da mnogi neće da veruju zvaničnicima, pa čak i kada kažu istinu. I pošto je izgleda u prirodi čoveka da traži potvrdu svojih sumnji, na scenu stupaju šarlatani koji pričaju protiv vakcina i pošto kažu ono što mnogi žele da čuju, onda progutaju i razne gluposti koje idu uz te priče. I dobijamo tako narod koji veruje u prskanja iz aviona i reptile koji vladaju svetom.

Njima onda zaista želim i preporučujem da budu dosledni i batale sve lekove koje koriste jer su ti lekovi iz iste kuhinje kao i vakcine.
 
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Bender Rodriguez » 04 Oct 2021 01:57 pm[/url]":11x6b2hx]Ma bitno da si se ti po običaju lepo olakšao po još jednoj grupi svojih sunarodnika.

Znaš samo šta se pitam - da u Srbiji pomru svi nevakcinisani, pa posle njih i svi koji ne nose maske 100% vremena, po kome bi se onda olakšavao? Koga bi onda krivio i pljuvao? Jer mislim ti nekog moraš da omalovažavaš, prosto takav si. Pa me živo zanima na koga bi se nameračio onda...

(ćutke skreće pogled ka Duletu, Goji, chiku i undefined-u)
Kakvo sad olakšavanje? Rekao sam da ulični neredi, sem kad su zaista masovni, nisu efikasan način za promenu politike, i to potvrđuje iskustvo. Gde ti tu vidiš olakšavanje? Pričam o pogrešnoj političkoj IDEJI. Odake ti ta stalna potreba da svaki takav opis podvodiš pod nekakv zamišljni "šovinizam", "mržnju prema narodu" i slične konstrukcije? Počinjem da se pitam da li je uopšte moguće opisivati neku široko proširenu negativnu pojavu, ako se ti ne slažeš sa analizom te pojave, a da ti to ipak odobriš kao patiotsku primedbu?
 
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astrodule » Pon Okt 04, 2021 2:59 pm[/url]":12583o5o]
Negativne posledice vakcina su kod nas pod velom tajne, imaš zid ćutanja. Ajde lepo izbacite listing svih neželjenih reakcija koje ste poslali u Upsalu. Ako je tačno da nema umrlih, i nema teških posledica po vakcinisane, to će biti najbolja reklama da se opet zahukta vakcinacija. Ali naravno to nije tačno...

Mene nerviraju izjave zvaničnika da niko nije umro ko je vakcinisan, gde kažu da nema skoro nikoga u kovid bolnicama da je revakcinisan i slične stvari.

Znam ja da je narod nepoverljiv, ali postoa je nepovreljiv jer nadležni od prvog dana govore kao da je vakcina 100% rešenje i 100% zaštita.
U pravu si, ali sa druge strane 90% naroda ne razume verovatnocu, sto se tako lepo vidi na ovom forumu.
I kako njima objasniti da ih vakcina stiti 95% ?
Njima treba sve crno/belo, kao u holivudskim limunadama.
 
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astrodule »
Meni je i dalje neverovatno da nijedan veći svetski proizvođač vakcina već ne distribuira vakcine bazirane na delta soju. Prošle godine se masovno pričalo da će novi sojevi biti izuzetno efikasno inkorporirani u sastav vakcina, i da se neće čekati na testiranja i odobravanja, kao kod razvoja vakcine na originalnom soju.

Meni to uopste nije cudno. U kapitalizmu je tako. Ako ulozis pare u neki razvoj, onda tezis da izvuces svaku kap, pa tek onda ulazes u novi proizvod.
Njih ne zanima zastita stanovnistva, nego profit.
Sto da uloze u nova istrazivanja kad mogu da prodaju vakcine takve kakve jesu.
To važi samo za one proizvođače koji imaju takav profit od vakcine, ali neki od njih (AstraZeneca je glavni primer) bi mogli da profitiraju upravo na tome što bi na tržište izbacile novi tip vakcina koji ponovo nudi zaštitu i od zaražavanja, mogućnost kolektivnog imuniteta, i 5 puta jaču zaštitu od težih oblika. I to je kapitalistički pristup.

Zatim, Sinopharm i Institut Gamaleja, bi mogli da rade i po kapitalističkom principu, ali i po državnoj direktivi. A, za Pfizer se slažem, oni su čak i brutalno priznali, da jednostavno neće da rade na novoj mešavini, dok stara kako-tako radi i prodaje se.
 
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astrodule »
Meni je i dalje neverovatno da nijedan veći svetski proizvođač vakcina već ne distribuira vakcine bazirane na delta soju. Prošle godine se masovno pričalo da će novi sojevi biti izuzetno efikasno inkorporirani u sastav vakcina, i da se neće čekati na testiranja i odobravanja, kao kod razvoja vakcine na originalnom soju.

Meni to uopste nije cudno. U kapitalizmu je tako. Ako ulozis pare u neki razvoj, onda tezis da izvuces svaku kap, pa tek onda ulazes u novi proizvod.
Njih ne zanima zastita stanovnistva, nego profit.
Sto da uloze u nova istrazivanja kad mogu da prodaju vakcine takve kakve jesu.
To važi samo za one proizvođače koji imaju takav profit od vakcine, ali neki od njih (AstraZeneca je glavni primer) bi mogli da profitiraju upravo na tome što bi na tržište izbacile novi tip vakcina koji ponovo nudi zaštitu i od zaražavanja, mogućnost kolektivnog imuniteta, i 5 puta jaču zaštitu od težih oblika. I to je kapitalistički pristup.

Zatim, Sinopharm i Institut Gamaleja, bi mogli da rade i po kapitalističkom principu, ali i po državnoj direktivi. A, za Pfizer se slažem, oni su čak i brutalno priznali, da jednostavno neće da rade na novoj mešavini, dok stara kako-tako radi i prodaje se.

Mozda ne znaju da naprave vakcinu za delta soj.
 
Kako je Indija pobedila Koronu
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... 2647b.html


India's Ivermectin Blackout - Part V: The Secret Revealed

On May 7, 2021, during the peak of India's Delta Surge, The World Health Organization reported, "Uttar Pradesh (is) going the last mile to stop COVID-19."

https://www.who.int/india/news/feature- ... p-covid-19

The WHO noted, "Government teams are moving across 97,941 villages in 75 districts over five days in this activity which began May 5 in India's most populous state with a population of 230 million."

The activity involved an aggressive house-to-house test and treat program with medicine kits.

The WHO explained, "Each monitoring team has two members who visit homes in villages and remote hamlets to test everyone with symptoms of COVID-19 using Rapid Antigen Test kits. Those who test positive are quickly isolated and given a medicine kit with advice on disease management."

The medicines comprising the kit were not identified as part of the Western media blackout at the time. As a result, the contents were as secret as the sauce at McDonald's.

The WHO continued, "On the inaugural day, WHO field officers monitored over 2,000 government teams and visited at least 10,000 households."

This news story was published on the WHO Official Website in India. The website details the WHO’s work against COVID-19 in India, including a discussion about their “Online course for Rapid Response Teams.”

https://www.who.int/india

Such teams are the very government teams discussed above assigned to conduct the house-to-house test and treat program in Uttar Pradesh. In discussing the role of the Rapid Response Team (RRT), the WHO site reports,

“RRTs are a key component of a larger emergency response strategy that is essential for an efficient and effective response…WHO has produced and published this course for RRTs working at the national, sub-national, district, and sub-district levels to strengthen the pandemic response with support from the National Center for Disease Control, Ministry of Health & Family Welfare, Government of India, and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

The Rapid Response Teams derive support from the United States CDC under the umbrella of the WHO. This fact further validates the Uttar Pradesh test and treat program and solidifies this as a joint effort by the WHO and CDC.

https://www.who.int/india/news/detail/1 ... onse-teams

Perhaps the most telling portion of the WHO article was the last sentence, “WHO will also support the Uttar Pradesh government on the compilation of the final reports.”

https://www.who.int/india/news/feature- ... p-covid-19

None have yet been published.

Just five short weeks later, on June 14, 2021, new cases had dropped a staggering 97.1 percent, and the Uttar Pradesh program was hailed as a resounding success. According to ZeeNews of India, "The strategy of trace, test & treat yields results."

"The Yogi-led state has also been registering a steep decline in the number of Active COVID Cases as the figure has dropped from a high of 310,783 in April to 8,986 now, a remarkable reduction by 97.10 percent."

https://zeenews.india.com/uttar-pradesh ... 68977.html

By July 2, 2021, three weeks later, cases were down a full 99 percent.

https://www.news18.com/news/india/up-se ... 18440.html

On August 6, 2021, India’s Ivermectin media blackout ended with MSN reporting. Western media, including MSN, finally acknowledged what was contained in those Uttar Pradesh medicine kits. Among the medicines were Doxycycline and Ivermectin.

https://trialsitenews.com/msn-showcases ... cine-kits/

On August 25, 2021, the Indian media noticed the discrepancy between Uttar Pradesh's massive success and other states, like Kerala's, comparative failure. Although Uttar Pradesh was only 5% vaccinated to Kerala's 20%, Uttar Pradesh had (only) 22 new COVID cases, while Kerala was overwhelmed with 31,445 in one day. So it became apparent that whatever was contained in those treatment kits must have been pretty effective.

News18 reported, "Let’s look at the contrasting picture. Kerala, with its 3.5 crore population - or 35 million, on August 25 reported 31,445 new cases, a bulk of the total cases reported in the country. Uttar Pradesh, the biggest state with a population of nearly 24 crore - or 240 million - meanwhile reported just 22 cases in the same period.

Two days ago, just seven fresh positive cases were reported from Uttar Pradesh. Kerala reported 215 deaths on August 25, while Uttar Pradesh only reported two deaths. In fact, no deaths have been reported from Uttar Pradesh in recent days. There are only 345 active cases in Uttar Pradesh now while Kerala’s figure is at 1.7 lakh - or 170,000."

https://www.news18.com/news/india/tale- ... 27714.html

"Kerala has done a much better job in vaccination coverage with 56% of its population being vaccinated with one dose and 20% of the population being fully vaccinated with a total of 2.66 crore - or 26.6 million - doses being administered.

Uttar Pradesh had given over 6.5 crore - or 65 million - doses, the maximum in the country, but only 25% of people have got their first dose while less than 5% of people are fully vaccinated. Given the present COVID numbers, Uttar Pradesh seems to be trumping Kerala for the tag of the most successful model against COVID."

This author reviewed the reasons behind Kerala’s failed treatment model in two articles, “The Lesson of Kerala” and “Kerala’s Vaccinated Surge.”

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... 7887a.html

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... a3e3b.html

By September 12, 2021, Livemint reported that 34 districts were declared COVID-free or had no active cases. Only 14 new cases were recorded in the entire state of Uttar Pradesh.

https://www.livemint.com/news/india/utt ... 44586.html

On September 22, 2021, YouTube hosted a video by popular science blogger Dr. John Campbell detailing the Uttar Pradesh success story. He gave a breakdown of the ingredients and dosages of the magical medicine home treatment kit responsible for eradicating COVID in Uttar Pradesh. The same kit was also used in the state of Goa.

Dr. John Campbell broke India's Ivermectin Blackout wide open on YouTube by revealing the formula of the secret sauce, much to the dismay of Big Pharma, the WHO, and the CDC. Readers will want to watch this before it is taken down. See mark 2:22.

https://youtu.be/eO9cjy3Rydc

Each home kit contained the following: Paracetamol tablets [tylenol], Vitamin C, Multivitamin, Zinc, Vitamin D3, Ivermectin 12 mg [quantity #10 tablets], Doxycycline 100 mg [quantity #10 tablets]. Other non-medication components included face masks, sanitizer, gloves and alcohol wipes, a digital thermometer, and a pulse oximeter. See mark 2:33.

Campbell reports that the exciting things in the kit that grabbed his attention were: Zinc, Vitamin D3, Ivermectin, and secondary antibiotic treatment. "Interesting, that’s what the government decided to give." See mark 3:40

John Campbell has reviewed repurposed drugs for COVID before. He has interviewed both Dr. Tess Lawrie and Dr. Pierre Kory. Repurposed drugs hold the potential for benefitting many conditions, not the least of which include viruses and cancers.

https://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Cancer ... 0998055425

Dr. Campbell noted that there had been no recent cases in 59 Uttar Pradesh districts. In addition, out of 191,446 tests completed in the previous 24 hours, only 33 samples were positive for a test positivity rate of only 0.01%. Dr. Campbell called this low number "staggering." See mark 5:05.

https://youtu.be/eO9cjy3Rydc

By September, cases had fallen dramatically. Out of the entire state of 200 million plus inhabitants, only 187 active cases were left compared to the peak in April of 310,783 cases. See mark 5:41.

Dr. Campbell attributes their success to many factors, including early detection and early treatment with kits costing a mere $ 2.65 per person. See mark 6:20.

Notice that Dr. Campbell does not mention a single person who had any toxicity from those ten 12 mg pills of Ivermectin - in the entire state of over 200 million. Not one poisoning was reported. No Indian poison control articles or telephone calls were reported. Out of millions of distributed medicine kits, each containing 120 mg of Ivermectin, not one person in Uttar Pradesh was reported to have had a problem with the drug.

Notice that Dr. Campbell at no time criticizes the medicine kit as "fringe" or ineffective. After all, it would be improper to accuse a WHO-sponsored program such as the Uttar Pradesh test and treat – coordinated by WHO – of being “fringe.”

https://www.who.int/india/news/feature- ... p-covid-19

Contrary to what little we receive - at great expense - from the government in the United States, these kits are efficient and contain gloves, a thermometer, and an oximeter. The last time I purchased an oximeter some ten years ago, it cost some $200.00. This entire kit – including the oximeter – costs only $2.65.

And notice that a government can purchase over one thousand home treatment Ivermectin containing kits for the price of one course of Remdesivir. Remdesivir runs $3,100, and it is an impractical drug as it must be given late in the disease during hospitalization. Moreover, it is a drug that does not save lives.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2007764

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/heal ... r-who.html

On the other hand, the Ivermectin kits are highly correlated with eliminating COVID-19 in Uttar Pradesh. Indeed with less than 11% of their population fully vaccinated, the Uttar Pradesh model of test and treat is superior not only to Kerala, with a much higher percent vaccinated. Uttar Pradesh beats the UK, the US, and nearly everywhere else in the world in terms of the lowest active COVID cases.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 354448.cms

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... a3e3b.html

Rather than turning a blind eye to Uttar Pradesh, perhaps it is time to analyze its success. It is time for all to realize that far from being dangerous, Ivermectin is safer than hand sanitizer or plain Tylenol, judging from the number of United States poison control calls.

https://www.thedesertreview.com/the-ive ... 98d65.html

Now is precisely the moment to point out that Dr. George Fareed, Dr. Peter McCullough, and Dr. Harvey Risch were correct in their U.S. Senate Testimony on November 19, 2020. They advised that early outpatient treatment was essential and would save hundreds of thousands of American lives if adopted. It wasn’t.

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... 8ade4.html

Now is the right moment to notice the onslaught of United States poison control articles attempting to smear Ivermectin, a drug proven safe and effective in the Uttar Pradesh test-and-treat program administered under the auspices of both the WHO and CDC.

It is appropriate to remind the reader that the WHO and CDC possess direct and recent knowledge of Ivermectin use for COVID-19 in India. Moreover, they know better than anyone the colossal effectiveness and overwhelming safety of Ivermectin used in those millions of Uttar Pradesh test and treat kits.

Perhaps it is also time to ask why exactly Dr. Tess Lawrie’s peer-reviewed meta-analysis was given an Altimetric score of 26,697, making it number eight out of some 18 million publications.

https://hopepressworks.org/f/ivermectin ... cited-ever

This rank is far better than the top 1%, which would only need a ranking of 180,000 for it to rank in the top 1%. It would only need 18,000 for it to rank in the top .1%. Ranking in the top .001% would mean #180. Therefore, at number eight, it is 8/180 of the top .001% or roughly the top 4.4% of the top .001%. This article ranks in the top 5% of the top .001%!

In other words, only seven articles in the world out of those 18 million are ranked higher.

This peer-reviewed paper is one of the most cited of medical references of all time – period. That should alert any reader – immediately - to its historical significance. Dr. Tess Lawrie is a 30-year veteran WHO evidence synthesis expert. Her conclusion is every bit as meaningful as the article's rank. Here are those words,

“Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using Ivermectin. Using Ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that Ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34145166/

Maybe it is time to ask why Dr. Pierre Kory’s peer-reviewed narrative review of Ivermectin ranks #38 out of the same 18 million publications.

He concludes, “Finally, the many examples of Ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality reduction indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

If Dr. Lawrie’s paper is ranked in the top 5% of the top .001% of all such published medical articles of all time, then Dr. Kory’s is not far behind. His is 38/180 of the top .001% or the top 21% of the top .001%

Thus, both articles would rank in the rarified atmosphere of nearly one in a million.

Therefore, the reader must now ask why two magnificent independent reviews from two different continents, coming to the same conclusion, are both ignored by our world’s medical leaders?

Uttar Pradesh is one such population that experienced a considerable drop in COVID-19 morbidity and mortality months AFTER Dr. Kory’s article was published on April 22, 2021. Therefore, one must ask that if Ivermectin so predictably and safely eradicates COVID-19, then why is it not being systematically deployed over all the world, as Dr. Kory and Dr. Lawrie suggest?

Perhaps every reader needs to ask themselves this question - Why is it that BOTH Dr. Lawrie’s and Dr. Kory’s supremely-rated expert review articles, published in the medical literature on PubMed, the National Library of Medicine, are BANNED from Wikipedia?

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... 2ff67.html

Although India’s Ivermectin victory over COVID may have been lost on bent-on-vaccinating-everyone Big Pharma and Big Regulators, the message seems to have gotten through to the man on the street. If Google Trends is any indicator, interest in Ivermectin is exploding, and for good reason. We are all being systematically deceived by influential organizations in the name of profits.

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... bad51.html

https://trialsitenews.com/is-the-iverme ... propriate/

A daily onslaught of media propaganda bombards us with messages attempting to steer us away from the safest and most effective treatments.

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... 5cff8.html

Interest in Ivermectin and India is only increasing and has now reached an all-time high. India’s conquest of COVID-19 is concealed no longer. The secret is out. And perhaps, at long last, that much-anticipated WHO Final Report detailing the most successful Pandemic campaign of any place on earth will be published.
 
Predugačak ti je tekst, al naslov kad sam video isto kao da sam pročitao "Kako je Vučić pobedio koronu" :)
 
Двадесете, двадесете ковид ударио,
двајеспрве, двајеспрве Моди победио...

(А Ноди и Пепа Прасе невера)

Него, изгледа кажу да падају бројке и у Србије, ал оно и јес, могуће да штелују.
 
Šteluju svi, opusti se, samo što neki rade na manje a neki na više kreativan način. Ukrajina koja je 6x veća od Srbije sa samo 17% vakcinisanih ima u proseku tek 10.000 zaraženih dnevno ili manje. Jednostavno, niko nema koronu dok se ne dokaže suprotno, tako da jednostavnim smanjenjem resursa testiranja direktno utičete na brojke. Ili primer Bugarske koji sam već pomenuo pre par dana.
 
Ljudi, šta vas briga za njihove podatke, kad su vam lepo rekli da "niste medicinski stručni". Super, nisam stručan, i ništa što apeluju ne moram da ih razumem :)
 
Čemu služi objavljivanje grafika i podatka?

Samo onaj ko zna šta se događa može da izvrši pritisak da se neke eventualno loše odluke promene, ili zadrže dobre ako ih neko drugi napada. Bez takvog znanja, ne može se uraditi ništa. Crnci se traže u tunelu.
 
A šta ste vi tačno zaključili iz tih grafika što se do sada nije znalo, ako smem da pitam?

Sem da država vrši zaveru i krije 30.000 mrtvih od Kovida. Ok, još nešto pored toga?
 
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Negativne posledice vakcina su kod nas pod velom tajne, imaš zid ćutanja. Ajde lepo izbacite listing svih neželjenih reakcija koje ste poslali u Upsalu. Ako je tačno da nema umrlih, i nema teških posledica po vakcinisane, to će biti najbolja reklama da se opet zahukta vakcinacija. Ali naravno to nije tačno...

Mene nerviraju izjave zvaničnika da niko nije umro ko je vakcinisan, gde kažu da nema skoro nikoga u kovid bolnicama da je revakcinisan i slične stvari.

Znam ja da je narod nepoverljiv, ali postoa je nepovreljiv jer nadležni od prvog dana govore kao da je vakcina 100% rešenje i 100% zaštita.
U pravu si, ali sa druge strane 90% naroda ne razume verovatnocu, sto se tako lepo vidi na ovom forumu.
I kako njima objasniti da ih vakcina stiti 95% ?
Njima treba sve crno/belo, kao u holivudskim limunadama.

Bitno je da samo Vi nešto razumete. Ne znam samo kako ne vidite da ste direktan problem sa takvim nastupom i da je manji problem onaj ko veruje u gušterljude jer su statistička greška. Tako da samo se Vi olakšavajte po neistomišljenicima bez ikakvih argumenata ali onda nemojte da se žalite što nećemo dostići ni 50% vakcinisanih jer Vaš pristup samo pravi inat i podele medju ljudima, a to je mnogo veći broj nego prskanje iz aviona. Što vidimo svih ovih meseci da se nismo pomakli.

Samo danas sam njima trojici objašnjavao kako vakcina radi i da je moguća i zaraza i bolnica. Oni su čuli da nema vakcinisanih po bolnicama, a svojim očima gledaju ljude koji vakcinisani završavaju u bolnici. Bukvalno sve onako kako je Dule opisao. Tako da samo napred, pravi pristup većem procentu vakcinacije su uvrede, laži i podrugljivost.

Ljudi jednostavno nisu informisani o svim bolestima i vakcinama, čak i ne treba. Ko je ovde nekad primio vakcinu protiv gripa? Oni se vode starim vakcinama koje primiš kao mali i to je to. Bitno je pričati istinu kako bi stvorio poverenje naroda, a ne vredjati i lagati. Ovde se sada pominju neke zemlje sa 80% vakcinacije kao primer dok su radili "zločine protiv čovečnosti" prošle godine. Na žalost, stari dobri Srpski inat ćemo teško pobediti.
 
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Bender Rodriguez » 04 Oct 2021 03:56 pm[/url]":phkjt5k4]A šta ste vi tačno zaključili iz tih grafika što se do sada nije znalo, ako smem da pitam?

Sem da država vrši zaveru i krije 30.000 mrtvih od Kovida. Ok, još nešto pored toga?
Hoćeš da kažeš da je bolje ne znati kako se kreće epidemija?

Kakve posledice imaju razne odluke, skupovi, koncerti, izbori ...

Koji je procenat hospitalizacije? Koliko ima onih u bolnici? Koliko se brzo to menja? Da li to znači da će još neka bolnica uskoro morati da pređe u kovid režim, i da tako još bolesih od drugih bolesti neće imati pristup?

Ili koja je smrtnost?

Ili kakav je trend promene u talasima? Šta nas verovatno čeka sutra?

Ili da li se podaci falsifikuju? Koji deo mrtvih se računa?

Ili kakve efekte ima vakcina?

Ili šta je promenio Delta soj?

Hoće li se ponoviti prošla jesen i zima?

I jeste, sve su to verovatnoće, a ne sigurnosti. Međutim to je skoro uvek tako, i odavno smo svi naučili da se sasvim dobro snalazimo u svetu koji je oduvek bio takav kakav jeste. Samo vernici žive u svetu potpune sigurnosti. Ostali se nekako snalaze sa onim što imaju.
 
Ja te pitam šta ste tačno vi zaključili iz tih grafika a što se nije znalo do sad.

Ne znam zašto mi listaš ova beskrajna retorička pitanja kad si sam bio rekao da na njih nemaš odgovor.
Kako si ono rekao - ''rano je još reći, treba nam još vremena''...
 
"Hećeš da kažeš da" ... da si za Đilasa? Xexe, Zuma skroz skino Vučićecske podvale. Ne, reći će ono što on hoće da kaže, nije invalid da mu ti podturaš odgovore. Ovo je skrenulo ka čistom politikanstvu
 
Jel vi to hoćete da kažete da korona ne postoji i da su izmišljeni svi oni koji leže po bolnicama? :)
 
[url=http://beobuild.rs/forum/viewtopic.php?p=886313#p886313:226ycgsy je napisao(la):
Bender Rodriguez » 04 Oct 2021 04:38 pm[/url]":226ycgsy]Ja te pitam šta ste tačno vi zaključili iz tih grafika a što se nije znalo do sad.

Ne znam zašto mi listaš ova beskrajna retorička pitanja kad si sam bio rekao da na njih nemaš odgovor.
Kako si ono rekao - ''rano je još reći, treba nam još vremena''...
To nisu retorička pitanja. Pitao si šta se saznalo, pa sam to i odgovorio. Na osnovu njih se o svim tim stavkama može zaključiti više nego bez podataka i grafika. To JESTE dodatno znanje. Ja nisam kriv što vi verovatnoće i delimična znanja ili ne razumete ili ne računate kao "pravo" znanje. Za vas je samo Da-Ne odgovor dobar, ili nešto što je 100% sigurno. O tome tupimo od početka ove teme. Maltene i ne postoje znanja koja su tako sigurna. To treba tražiti u crkvi, a ne u epidemiji ili nauci.
 
Zezaj se ti, ali bilo je i toga. :mrgreen: Mislim, bukvalno tako. Zuminom prvom oficiru Chiku je trebalo nekoliko meseci da prihvati da neko ko je vakcinisan ne može da bude antivakser i da obustavi praksu da na svaki post neistomišljenika odgovara kao Kathy Newman, u fazonu ''aha, znači hoćeš da kažeš da...? '' :roll:
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To nisu retorička pitanja. Pitao si šta se saznalo, pa sam to i odgovorio. Na osnovu njih se o svim tim stavkama može zaključiti više nego bez podataka i grafika. To JESTE dodatno znanje.
Pa nisi odgovorio. Samo si na pitanje odgovorio pitanjem. To nije odgovor. Štaviše, to je česta tehnika ljudi koji nemaju odgovor.
Ja nisam kriv što vi verovatnoće i delimična znanja ili ne razumete ili ne računate kao "pravo" znanje. Za vas je samo Da-Ne odgovor dobar, ili nešto što je 100% sigurno
Tako je, olakšaj se još malo. Mi glupi i primitivni, ti moralna i intelektualna gromada. Jeste.
Aj sad odgovori na pitanje gore - šta ste to naučili iz grafika a što se već nije znalo?
To treba tražiti u crkvi, a ne u epidemiji ili nauci.
Pa u crkvi i tražim. Tvojoj. :)
 
Vrh