Avijacija - razno

[Cone]

Super je to sto ih farbaju, a sta se desava sa tehnickom modernizacijom? Dzaba ti lepo okrecen avio ako nema ni radar, kao sto je to slucaj kod Orla.

A sta je sa onih 5 Mig 29 koji su ne tako davno remontovani?

Uostalom evo malo fotki naseg RV arsenala







Ali vise mi se svidja

 

[relja]

Peti je jos uvek na remontu, ali to je remont zbog zamora materijala, zamena delova i opreme kojima je istekao resurs, modernizacija se uglavnom odnosi na komunikacionu i navigacionu opremu.
Uostalom, sta je 4 brobena jednoseda i jedan neborbeni dvosed? Samo da piloti odrze trenazu do novih nabavki i mehanicari da ostanu u stosu...

 

[Cone]

Citat sa Wikipedie-Serbian Air Force

Future plans
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Future goals are to reorganize and retrain the air force to operate to NATO standards by 2010. The ministry of defense has planned more funds to be provided to help modernize the air force completely. Reorganization has already been completed and plans for new aircraft are well under way. Currently, Air force and Air Defense is the most professional branch of Military of Serbia with very small percent of conscripts.

Serbian Air Force is currently overhauling the last MiG-29 aircraft of totaly five of them, which were overhauled. [9]. The National Investment Plan has approved about 10 million € for overhaul of five MiG-29s, 7,6 million € for overhaul and modernization of two Mi-24 Hind gunship helicopters, 2,4 million € for overhaul of three Mi-8T cargo helicopters, while the NIP gave last year 1,5 million € for modernization of one An-26 tactical transport aircraft. The overhaul/modernization of one An-26, four MiG-29s and one Yak-40 is completed, the overhaul of three Mi-8s will be done until September 2008, and Mi-24 and Mi-17 helicopter will be send to Russia. Also, one more An-26 will be send to Russia to be overhauled and modernized.

Currently the Air Defense have in plan to modernize the Neva and Kub SAM's, and replace old Utva 75 trainers with new Lasta 95 aircraft. Advancement of infrastructure was the repair of runway No.3 at Batajnica Air Base and planned repair of 126. VOJIN center. [10][11]

The Air Force will get 14 - 20 new multi-role fighters (JAS-39 Gripen, MiG-35, Rafale, F-16, F/A-18 ore Su-30K) [12] to replace MiG-21's, 20 new helicopters to replace Mi-8's, and five new cargo aircraft to replace An-26's and An-2.

The Commander of Serbian Air Force and Air Defense, General-major Dragan Katanić has said in interview to media agency "Beta" that Air Force is planing to buy two new Mi-17 Hip multi-role medium helicopters from Russia and also to modernize 15 G-4 Super Galeb trainer/light attack jet aircrafts. As the General-major Katanić said, the Mi-17 Hip helicopter is selected because it's optimum for military and civilian necessaries, because it can be used also for fire-fight duties and a lot of Serbian helicopter pilots and mechanicals have a lot experience on older Mi-8 Hip helicopters, so the training and education of them won't be so expensive. Katanjić also said that the Serbian Ministry of defense will decide which foreign company will do the modernization and digitalization of Super Galeb aircrafts. Super Galebs should be equip with the most modern electronic equipment which will enable the use of Smart bombs and laser guided missles. The modernized Super Galebs should stay in service until 2030, while the other, non modernized G-4s will stay in service until 2015. [13]


Ovaj deo u zagradi mi se dopada-Jas 39,Mig 35,F-16,Su 30 i ostali (imate sve slike na Wikipediji,pa ocenite),a samo procitajte par reci iza.Iskreno sumnjam u sve ovo! :|

Zao mi je sto nema prevod,ako neko ne razume,ali sta da radim.

 

[KimIlSin]

Bice, bice, jer drugacije biti ne moze! Naime, onih dvadesetak MiG-21 koji jos mogu da lete, i koji cine glavninu nase lovacke avijacije, njime resursi isticu 2014. Znaci, ovo ce biti nuzno, a, ako se to ne desi, mogu slobodno da ukinu RV. Mada, sumnjam u to, ta kupovina ce biti dobrodosla za nasu ekonomiju; naime, Madjarska je kupila 14 JAS-39 Gripen, i dobila offset od 150%. Evo, na primer, vec je potpisan ugovor o gradnji fabrike usisivaca Electrolux u Madjarskoj

 

[bigvlada]

„Laste“ uskoro lete za Irak
Autor: V. Đoković | 04.08.2008 - 06:16

Predsednik Samostalnog sindikata fabrike aviona „Utva“ Slobodan Kostić zatražio je od predsednika Srbije Borisa Tadića odgovor zašto ovo preduzeće nije dobilo subvencije koje im je Ministarstvo ekonomije obećalo u aprilu. Subvencije je obećao ministar odbrane Dragan Šutanovac kako bi ova fabrika uspela da proizvede školske avione namenjene izvozu u Irak.

Iz Vlade Srbije obećano je da će „Utva“ dobiti subvencije za redovno održavanje fabrike, plaćanje struje, vode i gasa, plaćanje poreza i doprinosa za radnike da bi se na vreme proizveli školski avioni „Lasta“ čiji je izvoz dogovoren ugovorom o izvozu oružja iz Srbije u Irak. Pre nego što je poslao pismo predsedniku Srbije, Kostić je tražio odgovore od Ministarstva odbrane i ekonomije, ali mu nije odgovoreno.
- Predsedniku smo se obratili posle iskustva štrajkača u „Azotari“. Za njihovu muku predsednikov kabinet se proglasio nenadležnim, ali je efikasno „probudio“ Agenciju za privatizaciju, pa je sastanak s radnicima ove fabrike održan za nekoliko dana - kaže Kostić.
Umesto novca, u „Utvu“, u kojoj trenutno radi oko 170 zaposlenih, stigli su novi direktori. I to provereni: Dragan Perić, iz državnog trgovca naoružanjem kompanije „Jugoimport SDPR“ i njene ćerke firme „Jutra“, i Milan Jovanić iz beogradskog „Orla“, koji je ispostava poznatijeg - bijeljinskog.
Radnici rade, ali je nezadovoljstvo veliko. Plate stižu na vreme, ali im nije isplaćen dug od šest zarada. Pored duga, nezadovoljstvo povećavaju i neuplaćeni doprinosi, kako radnicima koji su angažovani, tako i onima koji su uzeli otpremninu a u međuvremenu ispunili uslov za penziju, koju ne mogu da dobiju, jer im nije povezan radni staž.
Desetak radnika trenutno radi na kompletiranju dva školska aviona „Lasta“ u montažnoj hali. Iako rok za završetak proizvodnje nije zvanično određen, nezvanično se spominje da bi to mogli biti prvi meseci jeseni. Ako se ugovor ispuni, to će biti prvi avioni koje je „Utva“ proizvela od NATO bombardovanja i rušenja velikog dela ove fabrike. Radnici i predstavnici sindikata očekuju da će im država ispuniti ono što je obećala kako bi konačno mogli da ožive fabriku.

Izvor: Blic
http://www.blic.co.yu/ekonomija.php?id=51744

 

[relja]

Kolika je samo razlika izmedju naslova članka i sadržaja istog članka! :lol:

Skoro sam pročitao divan komentar za Lastu: fabrika koja jedva radi treba da proizvede nepostojeći avion i da ga izveze u nepostojeću državu.

 

[Steva]

uhhh

:shok:

 

[Milance]

Da to je ta slika gde sam zapazio novu "saru". Odlicna je.

 

[vucko]

jos da imamo i bolji avioncic i superiska

 

[vrachar]

Ako ni za sta drugo, lep je za gledanje.

 

[Cone]

Jel zna neko da li ce svi avioni biti ovako ofarbani?

 

[vrachar]

Mislim da je ta kolor shema sa pticom i ocilima rezervisana samo za Orla i to onog paradnog.

 

[Cone]

Ne bi se valjda stisli za onih pet mig-29,izgledali bi bajno.Ovako mi se mnogo manje dopadaju.
A sta je sa ovim ostalim,vojnim orlovima?Da nema nekih planova za Galebove?

 

[guimaraes]

Ja mislim da će samo Orlovi dobiti ovaj livery. Što se tiče Galebova i oni dobijaju novi, probaću negde da iskopam kako izgleda.

 

[relja]

Samo je 25207 ofarban ovako, za promocije i aeromitinge, da se deca i entuzijasti raduju .
Sve o farbanju 25207 imate na forumu http://www.airserbia.com/forum iz usta ljudi koji su i predložili ovu šemu.
http://forum.airserbia.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2858
http://forum.airserbia.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3139
Ostali posle remonta dobijaju kamuflažu kao i ranije.
Još jedan G-4 iz Sektora za letna ispitivanja (valjda se sada tako zove) je dobio neku lepu plavu šemu, sve ostalo bi trebalo da dobije kamuflažne boje.
Kada bi ih sve farbali ovako avijacija bi nam bila k'o leteći cirkus.

 

[bigvlada]

Jedan sjajan sajt koji se bavi avijacijom - www.secretprojects.co.uk

Sajt se bavi gotovo isključivo nerealizovanim projektima, studijama kompanija itd. Podeljen je na više delova.

Avioni pre ww2 - npr. projekat letećeg krila tipa B2 u civilnoj varijanti za holandski KLM iz 1939, helikopteri Vermahta iz 1936, ruski mlazni lovci u ww2....

rakete - od nemačkih A9 interkontinentalnog balističkog projektila i A12, rakete nosača koja je mogla da postavi 10 tona u nisku orbitu do ruske Energije 2, Uragana, nosivosti 200 tona.

avioni posle ww2 - STOL, STOVL, VSTOL, VTOL projekata ima kao blata, avioni na nuklearni, MHD (magnetno hidrodinamički i magnetnoplazmodinamički), vodonični ili antimaterijski pogon, sa dva ili više trupova itd.....

kosmički projekti - Gemini za 6 ljudi, pedesetak projekata za američki šatl, Apolo moduli za Mars, ruske mesečeve rakete N1 i UR700 (veći brat UR500 Protona), ruski brod za Mars iz 1966 (išli su dotle da su u periodu od 1967/68 tri kosmonauta proveli godinu dana u maketi broda za let na Mars)

mornarički projekti - leteće podmornice, nemački ww2 nosači aviona Graf Zeppelin i Peter Strasser, podmornice koje su vukle kontejner sa balističkim projektilima....

kopneni projekti - tenkovi sa letećim kupolama, mlaznim motorima, elektromagnetnim topovima i na kraju moji omiljeni, krajnji stadijum nemačke megalomanije, Krupp P1000 Ratte i Krupp P1500 Monster. Ovo drugo je "tenk" od 1500 tona (King Tiger je imao oko 50 tona a Pzkpfw VIII Maus oko 80), sa dva topa od 280 mm kakvi su se koristili na bojnom krstašu Gnajzenau i motor sa dizel podmornice.

Ima više hiljada projekata, ovo je samo malo da vam otvori apetit. Da bi na sajtu videli sličice, morate se registrovati.

Ekranoplan, nosač ruskog šatla Buran

razvoj ekranoplana u SSSR-u i Rusiji

Ovaj bi nam pao kao kec na desetku, Beriev Be-103, prima 6 putnika i može da sleće na aerodrom, reku i jezero. Možemo da pravimo aerodrom bukvalno u svakom mestu pored Save, Dunava, Drine i Tise.

Ovo čudo je ogroman leteći hotel

Predivni A-12 Avenger II, subsonični stealth izviđač

Podmornica kao nosač aviona

jedan od brojnih modela aviona na nuklearni pogon

Tupoljev Tu 244, naslednik ruskog Konkorda

projekat aviona na vodonik

Još jedan ekranoplan

Evo i nas, članak i 3D prikaz Novog Aviona

i za kraj poslastica, Utva ekranoplan iz 1990

 

[bigvlada]

Brodogradilište Volga iz Njižnjeg Novgoroda gradi više tipova putničkih brodova, hydrofoil brodova kao i ekranoplan Orlionok.

http://www.volga-shipyard.com/index.php?lang=eng&section=products&catid=5&craft_id=21

Hajde prvo da razjasnim par stvari. Sve WIG (wings into ground) letelice se klasifikuju u tri klase:

Кlasa A: Mogu da lete samo pomoću efekta tla

Klasa B: Mogu da prelete manju prepreku, tj. da u kratkim vremenskim intervalima izvedu skokove na veću visinu

Klasa C: Registruju se kao normalni avioni.


Kao glavni problemi se navode prisustvo monštva ptica na rekama, nemogućnost operisanja iznad čvrstog tla (za klase A i delimično B), složeno upravljanje (nije dovoljna samo pilotska dozvola) kao i velika količina goriva koja se troši prilikom poletanja.

Problem je što se grupa motora koristi samo prilikom poletanja a kasnije predstavljaju samo mrtav teret (slično kao što npr. Herkules kada treba da poleti sa baza na Antarktiku ili Grenlandu koristi jato rakete da bi uopšte uspeo da poleti a koje se kasnije odbacuju)


Orlić, kapacitet 150 putnika ili 28 tona tereta, maksimalna brzina 400km/h, domet 3000 km, plafon leta 3000m.

Orlič na reci Oka, pored Njižnjeg Novgoroda

U muzeju u Moskvi, tokom restauracije

Još par starih projekata:

Beriev Be-1

Skimmerfoil Jorg IV, Južna Afrika

Noviji dizajn, Aleksandar Lippisch (ww2 dizajner aviona)

Sea Eagle,kooperacija Australije i Kine, ova verzija za 6 putnika se već prodaje, dok traže investitore za verziju sa 20 putnika.

Reljo, ovaj je specijalno za tebe, novi ruski Aquaglide, prikazan u Berlinu 2006 (ukrstili su Me 109 i srebrni Ford t-bird ), može da se drži u marini zajedno sa drugim čamcima.

 

[relja]

Pogledaj na Vikipediji, Orlic se vise ne proizvodi.
To sto pise na sajtu brodogradilista je isto kao kada se Utva reklamirala da proizvodi G-4, ili Krusik da prozvodi M-84.

Na slikama je jedan izlozen na betonskom postolju, a drugi je muzejski eksponat - odmah pored njega na reci je i podmornica, a sve pisa na Airliners.net odakle su i fotke.

Na ostalim fotografijama su mali putnicki, sportski ili eksperimentalni ekranoplani, radjeni u pojednacnoj proizvodnji, pa i po svojoj "klasi" i po obimu proizvodnje nisu opravdanje za ulaganje u neku infrastrukturu. Uostalom, i ovi veliki transportni koji su sda u penziji posle neslavne sluzbe, su zamisljeni je da funkionisu tamo gde nema infrstrukture.

 

[bigvlada]

hmm, Utva i Krušik su bombardovane fabrike, Volga nije. Da ne pominjem da je delove za m84 sklapala cela Jugoslavija.

Na ruskoj verziji članka na Vikipediji piše da se proizvodi.

Infrastruktura se ne gradi samo zbog ekranoplana. To što je nešto u muzeju ne znači da je zastarelo ili prevaziđeno. Antonov An 225 je prespavao desetak godina a sada razmišljaju da izgrade još jedan jer samo jedan nije dovoljan za sve porudžbine za prevoz tereta.

Nastavićemo kada Be2500 i Boingov Pelikan uđu u operativnu upotrebu.

 

[relja]

Krusik i Utva su se tako reklamirali pre bombardovanja.

Nekako vise verujem vikipediji na engleskom (kada su ovakve, tehnicke, stvari u pitanju)
Mislim da cemo se načekati dok neko započne samo konstruisanje nekog cargo ekranoplana. To je bre mašina za otvoreni okean...

 

[Steva]

Aerodrom u Podgorici

...i realizovani projekat:

:cheers:

i isto malo mix tivat podgorica

Sa istog sajta, par slika tivatskog i podgorickog aerodroma...

Tivat

Sjajno izgleda, ovo bi trebalo da bude model za Niš i Užice.

inače hvala CS što je našo ove fotke

 

[Cone]

Iznutra su odlicni,ali i spolja.Samo su mnogo mali(potsecaju na ulaz u neki shoping mol,a ne na aerodrom).Doduse neverujem da im trebaju veci.

 

[Cone]

Moj omiljen vojni avion

Sukhoi Su-47
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Su-47 Berkut

Role Technology Demonstrator
Manufacturer Sukhoi
Designed by Sukhoi Design Bureau of Moscow
First flight 25 September 1997
Introduced January 2000
Status Experimental
Primary user Russian Air Force
Number built 1
Unit cost 1.67 billion(Russian) $70 million(U.S.)
The Sukhoi Su-47 Berkut (Russian: Су-47 Беркут - Golden Eagle), also designated S-32 and S-37 during initial development, is an experimental supersonic jet fighter developed by Sukhoi Aviation Corporation. A distinguishing feature of the aircraft is its forward-swept wing, similar to that of the Tsybin's LL-3.[1] Its NATO reporting name is "Firkin". The sole aircraft produced is an advanced technology demonstrator prototype and manufacture of a planned second flying prototype was cancelled.

Contents [hide]
1 Development
2 Design
2.1 Maneuverability
2.2 Fuselage
2.3 Wings
2.4 Thrust vectoring
2.5 Cockpit
3 Operators
4 Specifications (Su-47)
5 See also
6 References
7 External links



[edit] Development
Originally known as the S-37, Sukhoi redesignated its advanced test aircraft as the Su-47 in 2002. Officially nicknamed Berkut (Golden Eagle), the Su-47 was originally built as Russia's principal testbed for composite materials and sophisticated fly-by-wire control systems. The aircraft makes use of forward-swept wings allowing superb maneuverability and operation at angles of attack up to 45° or more.

TsAGI has long been aware of the advantages of forward-swept wings, with research including the development of the Tsibin LL and study of the captured Junkers Ju 287 in the 1940s. Forward-swept wings yield a higher maximum lift coefficient, reduced bending moments, and delayed stall when compared to more traditional wing shapes. At high angles of attack, the wing tips remain unstalled allowing the aircraft to retain aileron control. Unfortunately, forward sweep also induces twisting (divergence) strong enough to rip the wings off an aircraft built of conventional materials. Only recently have composite materials made the design of aircraft with forward-swept wings feasible.

Like its US counterpart, the Grumman X-29, the Su-47 is primarily a technology demonstrator, one intended to lay the foundation for the next Russian fighter. Such a fighter must not only be as advanced as the US F-22 Raptor, but must also compete for funding with the more conventional MiG 1.44. However, Sukhoi is now attempting to market the Su-47 to the Russian military and foreign customers as a production fighter in its own right.[citation needed]


[edit] Design
The Su-47 is of similar dimensions to previous large Sukhoi fighters, such as the Su-35. To reduce development costs, the Su-47 borrowed the forward fuselage, vertical tails, and landing gear of the Su-27 family. Nonetheless, the aircraft includes reduced radar signature features (including radar absorbent materials),[citation needed] an internal weapons bay, and space set aside for an advanced radar. Though similar in overall concept to the American X-29 research aircraft of the 1980s, the Su-47 is about twice the size and far closer to an actual combat aircraft than the US design.

To solve the problem of wing-twisting, the Su-47 makes use of composite materials carefully tailored to resist twisting while still allowing the wing to bend for improved aerodynamic behavior. Due to its comparatively large wingspan, the Su-47 is to be equipped with folding wings, in order to fit inside Russian hangars. Like its immediate predecessor, the Su-37, the Su-47 is of tandem-triplane layout, with canards ahead of wings and tailplanes. Interestingly, the Su-47 has two tailbooms of unequal length outboard of the exhaust nozzles. The shorter boom, on the left-hand side, houses rear-facing radar, while the longer boom houses a brake parachute.





[edit] Maneuverability

Su-47 flying at low altitude doing a manoeuvre on the relief routeThe Su-47 has extremely high agility at subsonic speeds, enabling the aircraft to alter its angle of attack and its flight path very quickly while retaining maneuverability in supersonic flight. The Su-47 has a maximum speed of Mach 2.34 at high altitudes and a greater than 9g capability.[1]

Maximum turn rates, and the upper and lower limits on airspeed for weapon launch, are important criteria in terms of combat superiority. The Su-47 aircraft has very high levels of maneuverability with maintained stability and controllability at extreme angles of attack. Maximum turn rates are important in close combat and also at medium and long range, when the mission may involve engaging consecutive targets in different sectors of the airspace. A high turn rate of the Su-47 allows the pilot to turn the fighter aircraft quickly towards the next target to initiate the weapon launch.

The swept-forward wing, compared to a swept-back wing of the same area, provides a number of advantages:

higher lift-to-drag ratio
higher capacity in dogfight maneuvers
higher range at subsonic speed
improved stall resistance and anti-spin characteristics
improved stability at high angles of attack
a lower minimum flight speed
a shorter take-off and landing distance

[edit] Fuselage

Su-47The Su-47s fuselage is oval in cross section and the airframe is constructed mainly of aluminium and titanium alloys and 13% (by weight) of composite materials. The nose radome is slightly flattened at the fore section, and has a horizontal edge to optimise the aircraft's anti-spin characteristics.


[edit] Wings
The forward-swept midwing gives the unconventional (and characteristic) appearance of the Su-47, earning it the nickname of 'devil' and 'slingshot'. A substantial part of the lift generated by the forward-swept wing occurs at the inner portion of the wingspan. The lift is not restricted by wingtip stall. The ailerons - the wing's control surfaces - remain effective at the highest angles of attack, and controllability of the aircraft is retained even in the event of airflow separating from the remainder of the wings' surface.

The wing panels are constructed of nearly 90% composites. The forward-swept midwing has a high aspect ratio, which contributes to long-range performance. The leading-edge root extensions blend smoothly to the wing panels, which are fitted with deflectable slats on the leading edge; flaps and ailerons on the trailing edge. The all-moving and small-area trapezoidal canards are connected to the leading-edge root extensions.

The downside of such a wing design is that it produces strong rotational forces that try to twist the wings off, especially at high speeds. This twisting necessitates the use of a large amount of composites in order to increase the strength and durability of the wing. Despite this, the plane was initially limited to Mach 1.6. Recent engineering modifications have raised this limit, but the new limit has not been specified.


[edit] Thrust vectoring
Although not revolutionary, the thrust vectoring (with PFU engine modification) of ±20° at 30°/second in pitch and yaw will greatly support the agility gained by the forward-swept-wings.


[edit] Cockpit
The cockpit's design has focused on maintaining a high degree of comfort for the pilot and also on the pilot being able to control the aircraft in extremely high g-load manoeuvres. The aircraft is equipped with a new ejection seat and life support system. The variable geometry adaptive ejection seat is inclined at an angle of 60°, which reduces the impact of high g forces on the pilot. The seat allows dogfight and missile avoidance maneuvers with significantly higher g loadings than can normally be tolerable. The Su-47 pilot uses a side-mounted, low-travel control stick and a tensiometric throttle control. This reclined seating arrangement was first used in the F-16 Fighting Falcon but was determined to be of little value however it was replicated in the F-22A Raptor.[citation needed]


[edit] Operators
Russia
Russian Air Force

[edit] Specifications (Su-47)
Data from World Aircraft & Systems Directory

General characteristics

Crew: 1
Length: 22.6 m (74 ft 2 in)
Wingspan: 15.16 m to 16.7 m (49 ft 9 in to 54 ft 9 in)
Height: 6.3 m (20 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 666 ft² (61.87 m²)
Empty weight: 36,100 lbs (16375 kg)
Loaded weight: 55,115 lb (25,000 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 77,162 lbs (35,000 kg)
Powerplant: 2× Lyulka AL-37FU(planned) flying prototypes used 2 Aviadvigatel D-30F6 afterburning, thrust-vectoring (in PFU modification) turbofans with digital control
Dry thrust: 83.4 kN (18,700 lbf) each
Thrust with afterburner: 142.2 kN (32,000 lbf) each
Thrust vectoring: ±20° at 30° per second in pitch and yaw
Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 2.34[2] ((2500 kmh, 1552 mph)
* At sea level: Mach 1.31 (1,400 km/h, 870 mph)[1])
Range: 3,300 km (2,050 mi)
Service ceiling 18,000 m (59,050 ft)
Rate of climb: 233 m/s (46,200 ft/min)
Wing loading: 79.4 lb/ft² (360 kg/m²)
Armament
Number of hardpoints: 14: 2 wingtip, 6-8 under wing, 6-4 conformal under fuselage

Guns: 1× 30 mm GSh-30-1 cannon with 150 rounds
Missiles: 14 hardpoints (2 wingtip, 6-8 underwing, 4-6 conformal under the fuselage)
Air-to-air: R-77, R-77PD, R-73, K-74
Air-to-surface: X-29T, X-29L, X-59M, X-31P, X-31A, KAB-500, KAB-1500



Nazalost napravljen je samo prototip,ali nadam se da ce uci u serijsku proizvodnju.Mozda i nase RV odluci da kupi koji.
Sorry sto je na ENG,na Srpskom je jadno objasnjeno u par reci.

 

[bigvlada]

Nemoj se nadati. Iako sjajan, Berkut je uvek bio zamišljen samo kao tehnološki demonstrator, slično kao x29/x31, a iskustva stečena prilikom njegovog razvoja će biti primenjena na PAK-FA projekat koji će biti serijski proizvod.

 

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Jel to Ruski projekat,i imas li mozda neku sliku kako bi izgledao,a ako znas dokle je dogurao projekat,prosvetli me. ?

Pretpostavljam da je Ruski jer ce kopirati svoju letelicu,samo nisam siguran da ce prici 47-ici.Potpuno sam siguran da ce biti mnogo jednostavniji zbog manje cene,i brzeg i lakseg sklapanja,ali opet ne bi Rusi pravili nesto bezvz u 21. veku.