astrodule
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Videh i ja ovo juče? Samo menjaju asfalt?
Nisam video Vesića da je najavio ove radove.
Nisam video Vesića da je najavio ove radove.
Beogradska tvrđava i park Kalemegdan
- Začetnik teme Влада
- Datum pokretanja
milanobelgrade
Higher intermediate
Околина споменика Захвалност Француској ће се средити комплет...ипак Макрон треба да прошета ту...не сме негде да се саплете :lol:
astrodule
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Očekujem da Kosovo podigne veći spomenik zahvalnosti Francuskoj i da Makron posle posete Beogradu, sutradan poseti Prištinu (apropo kosovske zastave u Notr Damu)
astrodule
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Zanimljiv tekst (intervju) Milovana Danojlića na B92 https://www.b92.net/zivot/vesti.php?yyy ... id=1467981
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Vojna "pomoć" se uvek na kraju naplati. Ona se samo zove "pomoć", da ne ulazimo u semantiku. A pobednici na kraju to naplate iz ratne štete...
Ovde je više puta ponovljeno da spomenici dosta govore o vremenu kada su podignuti i o onima koji su ih podigli.
A meni je što se tog spomenika tiče prva asocijacija Ivan Meštović, "Meštovićev spomenik zahvalnosti Francuskoj", umetničko delo Ivana Meštovića, a ne Francuska i savezništvo u Prvom svetskom ratu.
Ovde je više puta ponovljeno da spomenici dosta govore o vremenu kada su podignuti i o onima koji su ih podigli.
A meni je što se tog spomenika tiče prva asocijacija Ivan Meštović, "Meštovićev spomenik zahvalnosti Francuskoj", umetničko delo Ivana Meštovića, a ne Francuska i savezništvo u Prvom svetskom ratu.
Vox91
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Zanimljiv je bio Meštrović..Negde sam pročitao da je u vreme pravljenja one faraonske grobnice Njegošu na Lovćenu, a nakon uklanjanja prethodne kapelice koju je obnovio Kralj Aleksandar, izjavio da mu je veoma drago što mu je poveren posao izgradnje mauzoleja jer se time podstiče nacionalna "samobitnost" Crnogoraca... :kafa:
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KartmenBG
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Jel to nova rasveta ili neko otšrafio da krade struju??
V
Vračarac
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Svaka im cast ako je ovo deo nove rasvete za Kalis, kapa dole za ovo.
KartmenBG
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Bilo je i vreme. Mada kališu treba lepo drveče da se izdigne i oreže gde zaklanja pogled na zgradu vojnog muzeja i na FR ambasadu i ka Sabornoj crkvi . A zgradu vojnog muzeja definitivno prefarbati u belu boju
ГЛАС ПРИРОДЕ
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Бела боја је у реду, али дрвеће заиста не смета погледу на та здања, зависи само одакле се гледа.
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varos kapija
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grand master
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Ako zna otomanski turski, bilo bi pozeljno da prevede:
Izvinjavam se na losem kvalitetu slike, nasao sam na internetu
Izvinjavam se na losem kvalitetu slike, nasao sam na internetu
jovanovm
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@grand master
Fenomenalna mapa, hvala što si postavio/la. Nisam bio svestan njenog postojanja.
Evo Sotbi je preveo par stvari, ali ja 10 hiljada evra nemam to da kupim jbg. Može malo bolje da se zumira doduše.
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/eca ... rld-l09723
Rezolucija je nažalost suviše niska da bi se išta moglo pročitati. Šta te konkretno interesuje?
Ono što mogu da vidim je da je karta iz 1284 (od 5. maja 1867 do 24. aprila 1868). To ima smisla jer je prikazan samo deo grada pod osmanskom jurisdikcijom (de jure, takozvani "Beograd u šancu,") ali ipak se vidi ostatak grada - Savamala, Palilula (to se isto da pročitati), vide se Stambol Kapija dole (u crvenom), Zerek (7. jula/Kralja Petra), velika Pijaca, Saborna crkva, zgrada koja bi mogla biti kapetan-Mišino zdanje. Interesantno je da u donjem gradu piše Kale Maidan.
Super su interesantni ovi minijaturni prikazi dole. Eh! Kako bi bilo super videti ovu mapu uživo. Sjajna stvar! Potražiću još informacija. Ako nešto pronađem javljam.
Fenomenalna mapa, hvala što si postavio/la. Nisam bio svestan njenog postojanja.
Evo Sotbi je preveo par stvari, ali ja 10 hiljada evra nemam to da kupim jbg. Može malo bolje da se zumira doduše.
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/eca ... rld-l09723
Rezolucija je nažalost suviše niska da bi se išta moglo pročitati. Šta te konkretno interesuje?
Ono što mogu da vidim je da je karta iz 1284 (od 5. maja 1867 do 24. aprila 1868). To ima smisla jer je prikazan samo deo grada pod osmanskom jurisdikcijom (de jure, takozvani "Beograd u šancu,") ali ipak se vidi ostatak grada - Savamala, Palilula (to se isto da pročitati), vide se Stambol Kapija dole (u crvenom), Zerek (7. jula/Kralja Petra), velika Pijaca, Saborna crkva, zgrada koja bi mogla biti kapetan-Mišino zdanje. Interesantno je da u donjem gradu piše Kale Maidan.
Super su interesantni ovi minijaturni prikazi dole. Eh! Kako bi bilo super videti ovu mapu uživo. Sjajna stvar! Potražiću još informacija. Ako nešto pronađem javljam.
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Evo i opisa
Catalogue Note
inscriptions
Top right corner, in red letters, inside a wreath:
'A map of Belgrade Castle, in the Ottoman Empire, in the European part, located in Serbia (Serbistan), between Hungary (Macaristan) and Khravadistan (Croatia?), bordering the provinces of Temişvar (Timisoara in Romania) and Seyram'.
Top left, in red letters, in a rectangle with a leaf border:
a couplet in praise of Belgrade:
'It is written that Egypt and Syria are both but the ornament of Baghdad,
Travelling the whole world, there isn't the like of Belgrade'
Top left, in red letters, in box with thick red border (summarised):
The cartographer laments the mistakes in the map, and excuses his lack of training. He says that the map came into being following a meeting with various men of knowledge, during which it was desired that the mistakes of former maps should be corrected. The cartographer explains that the map shows the various fortifications, including the c. 36,000 palisades erected in the time of the governor Abdulrahman Pasha, as well as various places and streets in the surrounding area. The cartographer explains that from the Istanbul gate (Istanbul kapisi), on the exterior walls at the very bottom of the map, to the Finger Gate (Parmak kapisi), shown at the top right of the map, is about 25 minutes walk. The date of completion is given as 1284, corresponding to 1867-8. This is the year that the Ottomans ceded Belgrade, though no mention of this is made on the map.
Along the upper left hand side of the page:
1) A key to the surround area, giving colours for shops and commercial buildings, mosques, hammams, dervish lodges etc.
2) A key to the fortress itself
Along the bottom are four views of the city and fortress from various angles.
Ottoman maps such as the present example draw on a cartographic tradition that arose in the wake of Sultan Mehmed II's increase in the patronage of art and architecture in the mid-fifteenth century. An official court historian was appointed to chronicle the Ottoman dynasty and the series of sahnames (royal histories) that followed came to be illustrated by the first half of the sixteenth century and took their place within Ottoman historiography as records of the might and power of the Ottoman Empire. Whilst urban topography was essentially non-existent within the overall context of Islamic painting before the first half of the sixteenth century, a distinctive Ottoman cartographic element becomes apparent in manuscript illustration. Indeed the illustrated histories of the Ottoman Empire are now considered an important addition to the corpus of Turkish miniature painting. For a discussion of Ottoman maps and illustrations from the sixteenth century see J.M. Rogers, 'Itineraries and Town Views in Ottoman Histories', in J.B. Harley (Ed.), History of Cartography, vol.2, Book I, Chicago, 1992, pp.228-255.
Catalogue Note
inscriptions
Top right corner, in red letters, inside a wreath:
'A map of Belgrade Castle, in the Ottoman Empire, in the European part, located in Serbia (Serbistan), between Hungary (Macaristan) and Khravadistan (Croatia?), bordering the provinces of Temişvar (Timisoara in Romania) and Seyram'.
Top left, in red letters, in a rectangle with a leaf border:
a couplet in praise of Belgrade:
'It is written that Egypt and Syria are both but the ornament of Baghdad,
Travelling the whole world, there isn't the like of Belgrade'
Top left, in red letters, in box with thick red border (summarised):
The cartographer laments the mistakes in the map, and excuses his lack of training. He says that the map came into being following a meeting with various men of knowledge, during which it was desired that the mistakes of former maps should be corrected. The cartographer explains that the map shows the various fortifications, including the c. 36,000 palisades erected in the time of the governor Abdulrahman Pasha, as well as various places and streets in the surrounding area. The cartographer explains that from the Istanbul gate (Istanbul kapisi), on the exterior walls at the very bottom of the map, to the Finger Gate (Parmak kapisi), shown at the top right of the map, is about 25 minutes walk. The date of completion is given as 1284, corresponding to 1867-8. This is the year that the Ottomans ceded Belgrade, though no mention of this is made on the map.
Along the upper left hand side of the page:
1) A key to the surround area, giving colours for shops and commercial buildings, mosques, hammams, dervish lodges etc.
2) A key to the fortress itself
Along the bottom are four views of the city and fortress from various angles.
Ottoman maps such as the present example draw on a cartographic tradition that arose in the wake of Sultan Mehmed II's increase in the patronage of art and architecture in the mid-fifteenth century. An official court historian was appointed to chronicle the Ottoman dynasty and the series of sahnames (royal histories) that followed came to be illustrated by the first half of the sixteenth century and took their place within Ottoman historiography as records of the might and power of the Ottoman Empire. Whilst urban topography was essentially non-existent within the overall context of Islamic painting before the first half of the sixteenth century, a distinctive Ottoman cartographic element becomes apparent in manuscript illustration. Indeed the illustrated histories of the Ottoman Empire are now considered an important addition to the corpus of Turkish miniature painting. For a discussion of Ottoman maps and illustrations from the sixteenth century see J.M. Rogers, 'Itineraries and Town Views in Ottoman Histories', in J.B. Harley (Ed.), History of Cartography, vol.2, Book I, Chicago, 1992, pp.228-255.
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